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The Business Of Upholstery => The Business Of Upholstery => Topic started by: gene on December 11, 2017, 08:08:05 PM

Title: foam prices
Post by: gene on December 11, 2017, 08:08:05 PM
US Foam out of Michigan has free shipping on orders over $100, east of the Rocky Mountains. (Does anyone remember when Coors was NOT available east of the Rocky Mountain)

They had a price increase in August of this year and another 9% in November. That's a big increase.

Anyone else notice prices for foam or other supplies going up recently?

gene
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: sofadoc on December 11, 2017, 09:43:23 PM
Michigan? Thought it was Indiana.
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: gene on December 12, 2017, 08:16:05 PM
I thought it was Indiana also. I have no idea why I typed Michigan.

gene
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: kodydog on December 12, 2017, 08:35:41 PM
Foam prices are a mystery. They tell us it is tied to petroleum prices. But when gas prices go down foam prices stay the same. All I can tell you is to shop around. Currently we get ours from Hickory Springs. They have warehouses throughout the states. I don't know if they have one in Indiana.

Every time we call our sales rep the prices are different. Sometimes drastically different. I think when pricing for small shops like us he just makes up prices. :)
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: sofadoc on December 13, 2017, 10:20:37 AM
The best explanation I ever got of why foam goes up even when gas doesn't, was right after Katrina.

The chemical that makes the foam rise during the baking process is a by-product of crude oil. Katrina destroyed one of only two plants in America that produce this chemical. Rather than rebuild, they just doubled the price.

Sometimes crude oil shortages affect the availability of that chemical without causing a shortage at the gas pump.

Even though US Foam has had some frequent price increases recently, their price is still the best I've found. I don't shop around any more. I might find a supplier with lower prices, but it's usually because they haven't restocked yet. As soon as they do, their price will spike. It's like shopping all over town trying to find prices lower than Wal-Mart. You might find a few sales on selected items, 
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: baileyuph on December 17, 2017, 10:36:22 AM
We are in agreement on foam prices - quality foam is plain expensive.  Especially when the freight is added in and as the foam thickness requirement increases.  Some can go to 6 inches!

Not cheap.

People getting bigger - often the thicker is what they want -- cost is very related to quality and size.

Doyle
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: 65Buick on December 18, 2017, 01:04:47 PM
I think almost anything related to petroleum is a mystery.
But, if you were the manufacturer you have to decide, what's the most the logical thing to do?

With foam, they know it is widely used and nobody is changing to anything else (latex?) yet so they can increase the price and probably not get a reduction in sales.

I would be really curious to know what the big furniture makers pay though, and how much control they have.
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: SteveA on December 22, 2017, 02:44:04 PM
Latex foam is very expensive - I've never ordered it for that reason.  I just bought a new gallon of K -Spray glue.  I've gone from only using the rattle cans of K Spray  to the jar sprayer with the compressor.  A world of difference.  Anyway the glue is a little heavy and the thinner for the K Spray is expensive.  Are there cheaper alternatives to thinning the glue.  e.g.  Lacquer Thinner -  Denatured alcohol  ?  - thanks for the advice 

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Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: sofadoc on December 22, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
Anyway the glue is a little heavy and the thinner for the K Spray is expensive.  Are there cheaper alternatives to thinning the glue.

Must be the difference in climate. I never have to thin mine (I use Camie brand adhesive).

I put a separate regulator on my sprayer, and keep it on 50 PSI. It sprays better for me that way. But I know that Paul says his sprays just fine at 80-90 PSI.
Title: Re: foam prices
Post by: sofadoc on December 22, 2017, 03:30:51 PM
They had a price increase in August of this year and another 9% in November. That's a big increase.


That increase may bite them in the butt a little (since they have free shipping on orders over $100).

Before, I always had to buy 2 sheets in order to get the free shipping. After the price increase, now I only have to buy 1.

The 6" that I usually buy went from $98.10 to $111.