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Title: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: old on June 15, 2010, 10:55:57 AM
Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?

If so, what make and model of machine is best to buy?

If not, what do you do to the seams?

Kathy
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: timtheboatguy on June 15, 2010, 12:18:30 PM
I have never used one. For the seams I use a hot knife to cut the fabric for Sunbrella and then either fold under and stich or sometimes use binding depending on if it is an edge or just a seam.

Tim
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: fragged8 on June 15, 2010, 01:36:14 PM
hiya
 
  I have a serger but i only use it for fabrics that ravel easily when doing
upholstery.

 you don't need one for boat covers

rich
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: Twat of the North on June 16, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
Sunbrella plus = no need
seamark sunbrella = no need
regular ol' Sunbrella=  nice sharp pair of pinking shears....
 Or go ahead and bind  or overlock the whole job...
Otherwize cut it all out by sweating over a glowing hot knife and be sure to inhale
all that formaldahide...  Tough call...
How much did you charge ?....... let it fray ! javascript:replaceText('%20:o',%20document.forms.postmodify.message);:o
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: JuneC on June 16, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
I bind the whole mess with centerfold binding.  I don't like the hot knife - too slow and I don't like the fumes.  I'd never deliver a cover that has the possibility of fraying.  Not in this market.  It'd be the end of my business.  Pinking shears - did that once or twice -my hands can't take it.  So, the centerfold not only stops fraying, but it also protects the gelcoat from those sharp/rough melted edges caused by the hot knife.  Good selling point in a market where people are willing to pay for quality and protecting their investment. 

June
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: Mike8560 on June 16, 2010, 09:27:25 PM
me2 June I even bind the seam on sea mark just to make it look nice did that on the sea ray in my jerk around thread. I agree it too slow cutting with a hot knife. I used to do that but not much now. I still use it but for other stuff.
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: hdflame on June 16, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
June, How does the centerfold binding method work?

Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: Mike8560 on June 16, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
Bobby when I sew a seam on a top face to face I bind the underside then I top stitch the seam as you woulould normally but now it has a nice finnished inside that wont ravle.
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: hdflame on June 16, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
Bobby when I sew a seam on a top face to face I bind the underside then I top stitch the seam as you woulould normally but now it has a nice finnished inside that wont ravle.

So, if I'm uderstanding correct, you bind the two edges while you sew the together face to face?  Then fold to one side and topstitch?

Also, not to hijack the thread, but do you ever use vents like this on boat tops?
http://www.montanagrills.com/

I'm thinking about putting them in my grill cover.

Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: fragged8 on June 17, 2010, 03:56:45 PM
hiya
 
i guess that takes a lot of practice with the binding attachment ?

 When i use mine I dont always get the material evenly fed into the binder
so some places the binding  V is closer than others.

 I'm sure if i did it your way Mike i could pump out tops a lot quicker.
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: bobbin on June 17, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
I love my "heiberschnieder" (hot knife).   I cut all acrylics with it!  It's quick, efficient, and in a properly ventilated area the fumes are no big deal.  I feel that a properly hot knifed edge is very stable, esp. when turned and topstitched.  Adding the cost of finished edge binding and then the time spent setting up the machine to bind has got to cut into profit or undercut your bid.  If it's not an issue in your market, it won't matter, but time is money. 

Using the same reasoning, I wouldn't bother with an overlock machine for marine work, either.  A hot knife is quicker, and a lot cheaper when you factor in the added cost of additonal cones of thread.  And trust me, overlocks eat thread!

I own a Willcox&Gibbs  5 thread overlock, circa 1978.  It's a beautiful machine and I love it, but I only use it for garment or drapery work... or to secure the edge of very ravelly fabric for slipcovers or upholstery work. 
Title: Re: Does everyone use an Industrial Serger on boat covers?
Post by: JuneC on June 18, 2010, 08:13:47 AM
Bobby when I sew a seam on a top face to face I bind the underside then I top stitch the seam as you woulould normally but now it has a nice finnished inside that wont ravle.

So, if I'm uderstanding correct, you bind the two edges while you sew the together face to face?  Then fold to one side and topstitch?


I don't bind when joining - I like my joining seam to be at least 1/2" from the edge.  I bind while topstitching (sew from underside and hand-apply the binding to the edges as I stitch).  I don't bind if the edges are factory woven and won't ravel anyway, but if one edge is scissor cut I'll bind.

June