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Previously, fabric contents were cotton, rayon, wool, and can't forget  -  the nylon and polyester.

Several of the newer samples use terms like Nano Tex, acrylics, to name a couple.  Well, seems I
remember one more;  100% solution dyed acrylic/polyester ----  How does a shop explain and advise
a customer? 

What will fade or not fade?
What will fray and what is the degree of fray?
Questions and there are more! 

Best way to clean (instructions are not always given.  Some say no cleaning required but "stuff"
can get on the material and that is what has to be removed(dirt and stuff).  Digest that!



It has gotten to the point when a question comes up ----  I just reference the vendors instructions.

What is leather today?
   Top grain (they don't indicate how many lower layers have been cut?
   Processed leather
   Simulated leather
   plus what are the important finishes to understand on leather today?

All makes a sales person back away and wonder how to cope - certainly don't want to get into
a law suit (laws vary by state too).

   
Doyle   


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The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Curiosity - Making double cording
« on: June 12, 2018, 09:16:56 PM »
Researched my files on the custom manufacturer of welt feet, folders, etc:  Tennessee Attachments and
located in Tennessee.

For small formal chairs I like to scale down the welt size for the chair.  Something around 1/8 or 3/16 of an
inch.  I have DW feet down to 1/8, and probably 2 or 3 other sizes.

This supports getting the best size for the chair size.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Narrow crown stapler
« on: June 12, 2018, 08:36:31 PM »
I use the narrow crown and series 7 staples. The HF tool is not good for double welt.

But, for corners, glue.

Doyle

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The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Expansion, different sector?
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:23:03 AM »
Do what the opportunity offers - that is the way to keep learning and expanding opportunities.

There will be new issues to be resolved but a good business person can work on that too.

Doyle

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There are (or were) tech support firms to manufacturers and people like us who would make
a folders and welt feet for a specific requirement down to the material being sewn.  That is, as the fabric gets thicker/thinner they would custom build a folder or whatever is needed to do work at a
manufacturing pace and accuracy.  This was a much more effective option than the l
options of buying something that was doesn't work.

I will check my files to try recovering those or that service (one was in the GA area and maybe the other
was in Calif(not sure about this one however).

They (or that one service) would provide all sewing attachments for all industries not only furniture (they fit it all together down to the machine/product being produced).

Impressive business and a good service - not cheap as we would understand.  Very much needed
for any industry involved in professional - intensive sewing.

Doyle 

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The Business Of Upholstery / Two chairs in for reupholstery
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:02:40 AM »
The chairs small curved channel backs without arms,  tight seat on "newer coils" - at first I thought "old".  But on inspection, it became apparent that they were imported partially complete and finished up in
domestic land.  In reading, some of that is going on to reduce tariff in a lot of industries.

The frames actually had glued joinery. 

I suppose the final assembly of previously sewn upholstery could have been installed after
shipping.

Always something new isn't it!

Doyle

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All contributors of this post, is convincing how good all you business people are at what you do - running
your business.  It is reluctance but smart!

That is why you are running a good business.  You speak well of our industry and will be successful in
your activity.

I agree with all of you.

Doyle


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The Business Of Upholstery / Curiosity - Making double cording
« on: June 04, 2018, 07:10:31 PM »
I just finished chair upholstery that included double cording - quite a bit.

While performing the work, I did it the way things worked for me  -- that is the cutting, sewing, and
installation.

The requirement met-- was no staples, cord had to be glued.  It was a wing back, and given the turns,
the cord had to look consistent in terms of size and fabric tightness.

The installation, I put the glue on the chair opposed to the back of the cord.  This was done because
there were tight turns to make with the cord.

Oh, I might mention that the cord was sewn in two passes because, given the fabric being applied, it
allowed me to make the cord with consistent tightness.

The cording was glued on approximately a foot at a time.  Didn't want the glue to cool too early.

Back to making the cording;  the material was cut large, sewed, then a final cut to installation size.


As a side comment:
When making the cord, I thought it would be nice to have a folder that would allow cutting the cord material, once before sewing, which would certainly speed the process of sewing the cord.  (I don't do enough to justify a custom folder - maybe some of you do and have such?).

The work turned out fine, so the time spent was worth spending.

Just something to share with you professionals!

Doyle
 

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General Discussion / Re: Sewing fabrics with flat feet
« on: June 01, 2018, 09:34:54 PM »
Paul's Flat Feet problem,
I use flat fleet frequently for all materials with no problems.

I would revisit that problem to verify the problem.  I have started/resumed sewing and accidentally caused thread tension problems.

My flat feet came with the machine and were made by the machine manufacturer and has been in
service many years(Japan).

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General Discussion / Re: Sewing neochrome
« on: June 01, 2018, 09:20:11 PM »
Paul,
You have one heck of a challenge there (24/25 ft.long cushions).  I just did a large project for
a major university here in our state that required making some cushions 129 inches (slightly less than
1/2 what you are doing and it was a challenge (some required 6 inch foam).  Mine were zippered but
no cording.  The fabric was a fairly loose weave (selected by designers over their project).  I am done and
want no more.  Lost respect for designers doing the fabric selection. 

When I finished the cushions for the University project, the cushions were loaded into a long enclosed
trailer and hauled about  100 +/- miles to their destination. 

Back to your cushion project -- I can appreciate your effort.  It can't be done without numerous pattern
registrations of cushion facings and boxing (used to guarantee a geometric stable cushion)

Even making the zippers for big cushions like that is/was challenging. 

So, I really can appreciate your challenge.

Doyle


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General Discussion / Re: Emil J. Paidar Barber Chair
« on: June 01, 2018, 08:07:11 AM »
A place who restores antique barber chairs doesn't say:

They are experienced on Emil J chairs.

????

Probably not enough around to find someone doing even several in a career?





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Gained some understanding of the problem -- The heavy vinyl webbing is installed with one wrap or a
double wrap.  But, the mystery of how the arrow head cut is inserted into the slot (this is after one end
is installed and wrapped)during connection of the last end is:  wrap the webbing by the wrap technique
being used (single or double) but the key is -- wrap the end to the side of the slot in the frame.  This
is what enables the arrow head to enter the metal slot after wrapping. 

Once, the arrow head of the belt is slipped into the metal slot, the belt is pulled over the top of
the arrow head.

Any tools that would assist might be something like needle nose pliers could help.  Not meant to be funny
-- but the process of wrapping the last end of the webbing is treated like a "curly fry" in that first is spread
apart then brought back to a tighter wrap. 

All that said, the technique of wrapping the belt (or installing the belt) works better on a new belt
best because old belts get very stiff!

This I learned from my research.

Bottom line, not the best way to make a living.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Emil J. Paidar Barber Chair
« on: May 30, 2018, 08:44:22 PM »
The backrest brackets must play a part in the upholstered pad assembly.  Remove those related
screws then the entire backrest assembly comes off (has to there is nothing else holding/connecting the
backrest assembly to the chair).

That said, once removed the screws holding the upholstered unit in place will have to show up.

So, your intuition suspecting the backrest brackets play a role in this, seems right on target.

Doyle

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How is the heavy synthetic webbing actually installed on the heavy out door furniture.  I will explain the
chair:

Very heavy steel or?  made from approximately 1 inch tubing. 

The webbing is installed, in this case, in a small slot opening in the seat frame tubing.  The slot is merely
less than a half inch wide by less than 1/4 inch tall.  It is made this way to accommodate the  2"
webbing which is cut to an arrow head shape.  To install the arrow head is pushed into the slot far
enough until the fins on each side of the head catches inside the pipe.

Further, once the arrow head shape is inside the pipe and caught in that position, the webbing (about
2" like I said) is wrapped around the pipe where the spear head was inserted.

Then, the webbing is pulled to the opposite side and the same installation of the webbing is done there.

The mystery to me what tools/technique are used to get the last end of the webbing installed?

Some of you have seen this and may have the "know how" of installing the end of the webbing.

If so, can you describe how to duplicate what the factory does?

The last end connected looks exactly like the starter end where the arrow shaped webbing end has
to go in first and will receive a couple of wraps around the tubing seat frame.

No picture, but sure anyone in the upholstery business has had this problem brought to them?


This webbing is always very stiff when the chairs are brought to me and might have been softer/flexible
when new is probably a given.  But how is both ends of the webbing done the same way (I don't see it
as something obvious).

The chair frames can't be disassembled to allow the the pipe to be rolled around to get the last end of
the webbing into the pipe first and then spin the round rung to tighten the strap first then install the
rung into the chair frame.

Any contributions on this type of work?

Doyle

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Where top of decorative wood joins to top of upholstered arm, there may not be a bolt or glued join. 
We may not know until the disassembly process begins.  What I think is possible, there is a insert (something wood or steel that slips into a tight hole in the face of the arm--acting like a pin).  This technique alone will
be very effective in stabilizing that part of the decorative wood, because  the rest of arm is likely bolted at the lower side of the seat (perhaps at least two bolts or more).  These bolts plus the pin can be enough
to hold the Danish style arm to the upholstered frame.  Danish wood is expected to be very hard, stable, and strong.

Like already mentioned, one probably can easily figure this issue out during the disassembly and
tear down.

But, study the stitching of the inside center back to inside arms  --  then note that assembly then is stitched to the outside back and outside arms to form an integrated assembly (a sock if you will) that
is slipped onto the frame in one fell swoop.  Another important point to make is-- note the vertical
seam -along the front of the where the show wood joins the frame that we were initially focusing on
in conversation here.

All seams are often referred to as french seams which is demanding detail, to say the least.

This not a conventional Danish chair - any idea where it came from?

Fabric selection will play into the challenge of doing such a chair.

 
Very unusual chair and techniques involved. 

Do you own the chair already?

The question was should you?  Can't say, if you leap, be prepared for an education.  There is more
going on here except disassembly of a bentwood chair.

Thanks for showing it - I have been around upholstering a long while and it presents several new
challenges.

Doyle






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