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General Discussion / Re: Re-Upholstering a Lazy Boy
« on: November 11, 2017, 08:39:13 PM »
None of those recliners were made in the USA and their advertisement doesn't clarify
where they were made.

Turns out a corporate officer had me working on some of their new furniture and he said they were
imports.

They had a Lazy Boy sticker on them but it did not say made by :  Lazy-Boy

The officer told me they would be broke if they hadn't gone in that direction.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Re-Upholstering a Lazy Boy
« on: November 11, 2017, 09:15:44 AM »
Is this question talking about literally a Lazy Boy (made in the US)?  Or is the subject matter used
generically?

It can make a difference on the cost question and replacement cost.

A new Lazy-Boy, like I said, "made in the US" cannot be bought for the same money an imported
recliner can. Even then, the imported recliner in decent quality fabric "brand new for $300" or about
would be difficult to find. 

I reupholstered two Lazy-Boy recliners in a good quality fabric for about 1500 bucks, which was
not a bad way to go because the recliner quality justified it (Lazy-Boy literally).  As a note, for the two;
the time required wasn't too bad because - doing the two factor.

Selling and understanding what is being sold and to what market can have a lot to do in the
business (as with any business).

On the flip side, if the recliner was not made by Lazy-Boy (which implies in the US), then it would
likely cast a different light on the subject of price for a recliner job.


Good Luck,
Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Pricing Banquette Seating & Foam
« on: November 05, 2017, 10:04:44 AM »
What is the designer's responsibility regarding the foam spec?  Foam can be bought at a range of prices, to mean 3" doesn't have to be hard or soft; it is available at all specs (price is obviously according to user desire in the seating).

Regarding labor to make the two cushions, the one doing the work will determine how much time and
their rate to arrive at the answer of labor.

Don't forget to factor in the zipper and any other cost, utilities, rent, etc, don't forget material used can drive time required also.

Who orders the foam is big issue in this project, which is probably the designer?

Good luck, protect yourself gain clarity on all issues. 


Banquette cushions - merely cushions?  Haven't heard the term and apologize for not familiar.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Re-Upholstering a Lazy Boy
« on: November 05, 2017, 09:45:42 AM »
Most new recliners today are a 1 to 3 year item.

If analysis of the older Lazy Boy (quality and condition) is done - a customer would never buy new
that is better. 

Every day, I see newer, foreign made,recliners bit the dust in less than 3 years.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Re: Hurricane Irma
« on: October 22, 2017, 06:48:58 PM »
Inger is now responsible for supporting this site.  She demonstrated a high skill level in fixing spam that
had become a major problem on my log-in. 

Inger studied the problem, got me back on site, I am grateful to her service.  She will prove over and
over to be an asset.

Thank you again Inger.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Carpet Padding VS Foam
« on: October 16, 2017, 07:27:18 AM »
JK,

Specifically, what will the pad be used for:  walking over floors or doing gymnastics
in a gym?

Two different applications, therefore probably different requirements.

In gymnastics, participants will be falling, rolling, etc. 

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Ya See The Darndest Things
« on: October 05, 2017, 08:02:00 PM »
Very interesting report on this type of business.  Are these type of business people
able to work the full year?  I am thinking the shows are primarily outside and the weather would prevent shows some months.  But, I guess they could do them inside
but it would add to their cost of doing business and the profits are already strained.

It would seem the people hooked on these type of homes would buy off the net
from someone stationed permanently?  I guess measurements and other information
is required and the customer would have to do some of the specifications.

Nope, not for me either.

Good report Mojo,

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Webbing
« on: October 05, 2017, 07:48:52 PM »
If you can google or ? to find out how Danish Modern decks were build and get a picture (would help ans).

Anyway, the chair you have requires (to go back original) 4 latex straps with metal
fixtures at both ends of each strap that slip in the slots.  These straps act as the chair springs.  So, think about it, they (the straps w/medal end fixtures) have to be cut such they are stretched into the slots during installation.

Then, after the latex straps are installed, you will want to make a padded decking
(most were light beige decking cloth back then) and stitched around the perimeter
just like originals were.  Finally, the decking you prepare (styled/padded just like
they were back in that period) will have to be installed.  Most manufacturers used
some elastic straps to help keep the deck in place and they helped in building
the stronger deck. 

Once, the deck is cut/padded/sewn around the edge and installed to the frame,
the smaller elastic straps can be also stapled  (this occurs at the rear on most).

Over the years, I have done a large number of these type chairs.  They can be made very nice and all the details I have alluded to helps functionally and
in adding comfort.

I think most with affection and appreciation of this mid century style would agree
they are in demand and are probably costly according to the restored condition.

What is the condition of the walnut frame(s)?  That wood can be beautiful.

You got yourself a great project, but finding pictures to gain understanding
of how things were made will inform and keep you going in the best direction.

You are right, if the chair wasn't modified over the years there won't be any staples suggesting burlap webbing (just not original).

Do your research before proceeding!

Doyle

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The Business Of Upholstery / Re: How Furniture is made today----
« on: October 03, 2017, 09:58:12 PM »
Repairing Recliners made recently:

I do a lot of repairs; that include mechanism, wood framing, and upholstery.

If it requires a replacement mechanism, upholstery component(s) - the parts
can be obtained by/from manufacturer.  Most wood repairs (if not all) I "saw" and
am usually able to made stronger than new.

From observation, people are bigger today and challenge the furniture a lot more,
often.  For example with the footrest in the up position, they will exit and re-enter
the chair with it in that position - which often leads to warping the mechanism.

Regarding the price of these recliners (I work on), well  not the expensive variety, but above $400.  Say more like in excess of $600.

I don't mind working on them, it is all in a days work, but seeing the disregard
for furniture by these BIG people tells me it is time to move on to something other
than recliners because it doesn't look like consumers are going to change - weight
or habits.

Doyle

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I fully understand your question, the piece gets sewn to the seam in the cover then
the other side of the piece will get a few hog rings "to the seat" where the foam is.

The seat you are working on, should have one of these pieces on one side (front to back) and another exactly like it on the opposite side of the seat.  If worst to worst,
just go the the other seat in the opposite side of the vehicle and see it looks like there (but you shouldn't have to do this - is an option though). 

If you haven't thrown anything away, retrace your steps and the piece and where it
goes should be logical.  Do you know someone in the auto trim business?  If so, take what you have to "show" and get "directions".

If this is a vehicle that would be in a local wrecking yard - maybe they would let you do an internal inspection  and perhaps buy the piece (s) you need.

Doyle (car/furniture/ marine/ you name it guy)

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General Discussion / Re: foam or rubberized hair???
« on: September 29, 2017, 08:49:15 PM »
The thickness of R. Hair you have should not prevent steam from getting rid of
the bug problem.  The thickness question you raised for the inside back and arms,
should be close to the original (assuming it is what you found in these areas) - and like I said steaming should prepare the original for reuse.

Didn't the hair have some cotton over it?

Must be a pretty old piece of furniture?

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Foam knife
« on: September 29, 2017, 08:40:53 PM »
The Bosh is what I have and it is a great tool.  BTW, for some type of cutting work,
I made a jig and run straight cuts through the band saw.  Works great and is very
accurate.  It won't replace the scroll saw (like Bosh) but is a valuable complementary foam cutting tool.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Old wood Rocker
« on: September 29, 2017, 08:37:01 PM »
Customer picked up the old wood rocker and is having me do a two piece sectional
- instead of buying new foreign made stuff.  I had told the customer, after seeing their sectional, that the piece would be better than buying new (their piece was about 30 years old - decent quality).

Now, a couple of their friends/family have called and wish to have some of their older pieces redone. 

Referrals are one of the best sales people in most business.

They don't dwell on price! 

Doyle

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The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Business
« on: September 29, 2017, 08:29:12 PM »
Before considering going into business, the craftsman would be better to focus on the craft only.  There are some real challenges to become a highly skilled and equally
efficient craftsman in most business. 

In my - starting to work years, there was enough proficient and equally important
being efficient in the trade, I am sure I made more money being an employee only.

For example, working for someone like Paul or Kody would be significantly more effective and rewarding than jumping in all the way -  to include being a business
owner.

So much to learn, customers usually can detect the level of person they are dealing with and it would only lead to head aches. In a different way of saying it;
If I want someone to do a job for me and want a good job, I usually don't dwell on price.  I Want their expertise instead of problems that can occur without it.

I take my company van to one shop for body work and the same for mechanic work.  These type of shops are not going to gouge because they are smart to get
a fair price and keep a loyal customer.

So, if you want to upholster, do it and get good at it with efficiency (underlined), then moving to the business owner level will work much better in most cases.

Doyle

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General Discussion / Re: Old wood Rocker
« on: September 17, 2017, 07:49:44 AM »
Makes sense, chair needs some "flash" and some tack spacing will still
reveal the gimp.

Good point,

Thanks,

Doyle

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