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The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Fabricating double cording
« on: March 22, 2019, 06:27:33 PM »
Talking about how words are used:  Wrecking Yards are also called Salvage Yards!

I guess a double cord maker could have a selvage depository. 

Oh well, wish I didn't have to mess with this thin material people bring me to work with.

Everything is all about "money", I have learned.


The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Fabricating double cording
« on: March 21, 2019, 08:55:35 PM »
I just assumed there was a typo, something like that.

Replace it with "Selvage" side and it puts what was said in perspective.  The selvage side while sewing
is the layer directly over the machine feed dogs.

Using a folder, like Sofadoc, is enticing -- why fight - doing it manually.  If double welt had to be made
regularly, especially like in a factory environment - use the folder on a machine dedicated to the

I have the folder matter of fact - one that feeds the cord filler and folds the fabric simultaneously.

But for a small amount, now and then -- well, I just do it manually.

Back to the beginning --- the biggest problem I notice is with the super thin fabrics. 

Have any of you noticed the synthetic thin materials are harder to glue?  They don't absorb like
the older style fabrics?


The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Fabricating double cording
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:16:57 PM »
Thanks all, I actually solved the problem after my post by doing physically what was recommended.
You folks shared your success in this type of issue by selecting a larger size double cord filler.

Well, I decreased the double cord welt size by 1/32 inch.  You put more filler through the foot.  What I
did was selected a slightly smaller foot which gained the same effect. 

Job is done!  Your post were very analytical.  I was able to implement the same analytics by reducing
the footsize.  I didn't have a larger cord on hand.  The thin fabric was a suede cloth and it required
a tighter flow through the sewing process.  Job is done with tight welt but customers fabric selection
was not my taste.  The suede cloth selected had a cow's (brown & white hair). 

Oh well, no complaint, the money is our objective while pleasing the customer.

Rose's chair job is my taste and does it look nice!!  Very perfect!

Now, I am installing (a complete rebuild actually) replacement padding build-up and replacement
upholstery on a pair of AMC bucket seats (after the frames are cleared of surface rust with steel wool) - diversification huh?  Then, have marine seats to go at!  Making double welts is very relaxing comparatively.

Whatever floats their boat - as often said.

Take care guys, you are the greatest!


The Business Of Upholstery / Fabricating double cording
« on: March 18, 2019, 10:28:45 PM »
Over time, it seems my technique of making the double cord has had to change - from one pass
of seaming to two.  This has been done, my thinking - due to change in fabrics are not woven the
same of older quality materials. 

How do you do it now?  one seam or?

I suspect we all are using the same type of cording feet?

Kody Dog - how are you and the wife doing this work?  I noticed in one of your photos on file - nice work.

Let's hear your procedure/technique.


Never know, is your return examples - entered into their customer return data base? 

Another situation customers may or may not get some relief, that is on a purchased item needing repair:

such as most business here, there can be some kind of warranty involved on items that fail?

Most I encounter (not my purchases) situations where furniture is fixed when breakages happen early but

these may be because the item is being financed.  I think those warranties play out as soon as the item

gets paid out.  I have no evidence, just by having my ears open and who I am told to send the bill to.

Anyway, these situations are not always the fault of the purchased item.  People are too big today and

customers may have others than family members living in their house hold who are way over weight -

or the like contributing to the issue(s).


"These type springs" - what is that type?  Has a repair person helped in defining the existing spring?

A Lane chair (20+), doubtful the chair is still owned by original buyer ..... I had some experience with
recliner warranty a while back but the owner had to have an owner ship purchase of the furniture which
wasn't as old as yours.  He had the records of purchase and did get the parts (recliner parts in this example) that I installed.  Don't know or remember if there was any associated cost either.

Your case, ----- get a picture of the spring(s) for readers to see and go from there.  Anything made that long ago, probably isn't a zig-zag and maybe not integrated into a system.  A single or (?) more than one coil, might lead to hope, especially if there is jute spring typing involved.

Picture, like stated, could help -  better if you have an experienced local service person to get
professional advice from?


General Discussion / Re: Velcro
« on: March 09, 2019, 09:24:37 AM »
What you are dealing with - velcro (same product as strips).  It is used industrially.  The panel attached
to the sofa inside back (tight back your term) does appear much larger than usual, but 15 X 20 inches?
The 20 inch dimension looks less - definitely a size that large isn't required. 

Never-the-less, that said could help bail you out.  Since a piece of velcro as big as it is isn't needed -
try cleaning the hook (on tight back you said) and downsize it.  There will still be plenty to grip the
back of the cushion, this will lead to more resizing and repositioning of both hook & loop - removal cutting and repositional sewing.  I have cleaned velcro pieces (hooks) with a stiff brush sufficiently to reuse.

BTW, the inside of the cushion appears to have some leather coverage (photos can be difficult sometimes, however).

In the equation, the inside back (tight back again) will have to be removed for sewing/repositioning!

Probably the same for the velcro on the inside back of the cushion - the filler, as I know you know,
at least will require removal.  So, try the brush technique on the hook  (can't think of a solvent that would help a bit?).

BTW, if velcro hook or loop is absolutely required - I have seen panels of both sewn to achieve a
larger panel.

Just a comment:  I see new furniture with backrest cushions attached to inside backs with the
velcro product - effectively and with much smaller strips - some with only a couple inches wide
going across (side to side but not the complete width extent). 

Industrial customers will use larger pieces of velcro (hook/loop).  A large quantity of such can't
be justified by this project.

So, the possibility of removing/unsewing/resizing both velcro pieces/resewing after cleaning the existing loop/hook looks achievable, especially since based on existing dimensions look over killing.

At least your post is mind probing - for some anyway.

Upholstery can get you into a project some times!

Good luck,


Hard to believe some expectations of customers.  Probably none of these examples couldn't even give
a reason for the "return" request?

Next ...  some might want to return a half slice of bread?

Times keep changing.


"For real this time"

I was talking to another retailer that this discounter had been in and then out within a short time -
several times.  But, apparently he is quitting for sure this time.

 There may be more going forward (this type) - for the obvious reason there are so many now

Yes, to what you say about our quality Mom/Pop business -- we are all busy and there are fewer
small quality shops around.  It doesn't look to change going forward.

Hang in there!


General Discussion / Re: Cushion crown
« on: March 06, 2019, 08:39:36 AM »
Building crown cannot ignore the geometry requirement in both the filler and cushion patterning. 

Actually the crown is driven mainly in the face plates (top/bottom) of the cushion.  The overall thickness
of the crowned cushion is driven by the boxing.

Long ago, crown cushions were more in vogue than today.  Fillers were accomplished more differently,

before the flat foam wave, often it was coils and loose fillers of that period (cotton, down, etc.) - to name
some important type.

Thanks for the clarification on your material.


The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Water based foam cement
« on: March 03, 2019, 10:22:31 AM »
This type of wood repair glue is new to me.  When using - what is the reason? 

Just curious,


Are things changing for the large wholesalers?  Just in the past few days one is giving it up
in this area.  Big signs "going out of business" - with "for real this time" are posted.  Seems reasonable
that there can be too many of anything/type.

It isn't easy to understand when a sofa is $149!

Time continues to change things.


The Business Of Upholstery / Re: Respect For Equipment Operators
« on: March 03, 2019, 10:14:05 AM »
Yes, operating these kind of equipment is different.  Surely helps to have experience.

Also, the equipment is expensive.  Depending on the brand the options of repair are different - I have
learned.  For example the CAT equipment seat (operators driving) - if the upholstery is worn or(?) the
only thing CAT will sell is the complete seat assembly - that is -- anything related and it can get expensive.
Should say expensive because it is well over $2600 - customers tell me.  Some will disassemble and
bring me the things that we might relate to as "seat".  They often relate to the fact that CAT will not just
sell the foam padding or just the upholstery.  This is with respect to CAT. 

So, that becomes potential business for me - even that is not as easy as it sounds.  The material is some
kind of cloth and is bonded to the seat form.  I had to do some experimenting with that aspect.

Yes, the equipment is expensive - a primary reason for many users to rent and learn!

Very impressive but fully expected by Mojo!


General Discussion / Re: How to evaluate Fabric Content?
« on: March 03, 2019, 09:50:48 AM »
Excellent response Gene - very informative

One bottom line:  "Don't permit smoking regardless of the content!"

Going forward, it looks quality just depends on ......... several things.



General Discussion / Re: Cushion crown
« on: February 25, 2019, 09:42:57 AM »
What is the padding (cushion) fill "100 % synthetic cottonmI? Just another term for synthetic?

Or is it a combination?

Never heard this term used - don't think?


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